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Engaging a Black Hebrew Israelite

September 30, 2015 by Tony Miano 5 Comments

Jeff Rose and Dave Griffin of JeremiahCry Ministries, try to reason from the Scriptures, with a Black Hebrew Israelite.
Jeff Rose and Dave Griffin of JeremiahCry Ministries, try to reason from the Scriptures, with a Black Hebrew Israelite.

A Black Hebrew Israelite: always angry, always disrespectful, always self-righteous, always racist, always hateful. You can’t shut them up, but you can shut them down.

See Ryan Turner​’s excellent article, which gives a good overview of this demonic, cultic group: Black Hebrew Israelites.

While Jeff Rose and Dave Griffin (JeremiahCry Ministries)

Two verses these men of God brought to bear upon this young man were:

“And he sent and brought him in. Now he was ruddy and had beautiful eyes and was handsome. And the Lord said, ‘Arise, anoint him, for this is he'” (1 Samuel 16:12; see also 1 Samuel 17:42).

The Hebrew word (אַדְמֹונִ֔י) translated “ruddy,” is the same Hebrew word used to describe Esau as “red” in Genesis 25:25. The significance of this linguistic point is this. The Black Hebrew Israelites erroneously believe that all fair-skinned people are descendants of Esau. They justify their racist hatred of non-blacks (as well as any black person who disagrees with them–assigning them to the family of Esau) based on an eisegetical interpretation of Malachi 1:1-3.

“The oracle of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi. ‘I have loved you,’ says the Lord. But you say, ‘How have you loved us?’ ‘Is not Esau Jacob’s brother?’ declares the Lord. ‘Yet I have loved Jacob but Esau I have hated. I have laid waste his hill country and left his heritage to jackals of the desert'” (see also Romans 9:13).

Since God hated Esau, so the Black Hebrew Israelites rationalize, they are justified in hating everyone and anyone who is not black. However, 1 Samuel 16:12 and 17:42 put an unavoidable fly in their blasphemous theological ointment. The Black Hebrew Israelites highly esteem King David, who they insist was a black man. Yet the Word of God makes it clear that while not a descendant of Esau, David had a ruddy, red, light complexion.

To further complicate and undermine the Black Hebrew Israelite’s thinking, Jeff and Dave pointed the angry, arrogant young man to Deuteronomy 23:7.

‘You shall not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. You shall not abhor an Egyptian, because you were a sojourner in his land.”

And then they asked the young man the obvious question. “If we are Edomites, are we not your brothers?”

He hesitated. He stammered. He fell out of character. He even smiled the smile of someone who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. However, he soon returned to his naturally sinful, lost state–a hater of God and people. But he knew. He knew that Jeff and Dave knew that they had broken through his cultish, unbiblical script. Sometimes that simply has to be enough.

When you find yourself engaged in a conversation with a Black Hebrew Israelite, a Jehovah’s Witness, a Mormon, a Roman Catholic, an atheist, or a member of any other false religious group (yes, Atheism is a religion)–a person who, more often than not, simply wants to argue with you in order to justify his unbelief at your expense–keep the conversation brief and too the point. Don’t allow the person to accomplish his goal of tying you up in an hour-long conversation bound for nowhere.

Rapid-fire volleys of truth, punctuated with interruptions whenever the adversary utters falsehood, while doing one’s best to maintain a civil but strong demeanor, is sometimes the only way to get a word in edgewise and to expose the adversary to the truth of God’s Word. To the observer it might appear that you are being curt, insensitive, judgmental, and rude. My recent conversation with a drunk false convert has brought about such accusations my way, by some.

Diplomacy is desirable. The conversational etiquette common in the halls of academia is laudable. A “now it’s your turn to speak” protocol is preferable if both people in the conversation are willing to play by the rules. But on the streets these niceties of controlled environments are not always practical. Conversations on the street are often impromptu, unrehearsed, unexpected, unpredictable, intense, and even dangerous.

There is never a justification of sin. The Christian must strive to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15), make his defense of Christ and His gospel with gentleness and respect (1 Peter 3:15), and not revile when reviled (1 Corinthians 4:12; 1 Peter 2:23). At the same time, while applying these essential truths, the Christian may find himself in a conversation that requires fluid levels of verbal tactical engagement. After all, it is a war the Christian fights–not a war with people, but rather a war for the souls of people.

Categories Aberrant Theology, Featured Article Tagged: CARM, Cults, One-2-One, Theology

Comments

  1. Joseph Jackson says

    November 15, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    Why was the bible changes hence old and new testament. Weren’t the Hebrews the only profits? why does all the curses fit the Negros in America, Europe, and the Caribbean?. If King James Wasn’t black would he have changed the bible to fit his people in translation. have you looked into the creation of Christianity?

  2. Tasha says

    September 10, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    You got it ALL wrong 🤔🙅🏾

  3. blankIudahIrael says

    December 23, 2017 at 10:48 pm

    Malachi 1GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
    “I Loved Jacob, but Esau I Hated”
    1 This is a divine revelation. The Lord spoke his word to Israel through Malachi.

    2 “I loved you,” says the Lord.

    “But you ask, ‘How did you love us?’

    “Wasn’t Esau Jacob’s brother?” declares the Lord. “I loved Jacob, 3 but Esau I hated. I turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the jackals in the desert.

    Deuteronomy 23:3
    “No Ammonite(Arabs) or Moabite(Asians) shall enter the assembly of the LORD; none of their descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall ever enter the assembly of the LORD,

    2 Esdras 6:56

    54And after these, Adam also whom thou madest lord of all thy creatures, of him come wee all, and the people also whom thou hast chosen. 55All this haue I spoken before thee, O Lord, because thou madest the world for our sakes. 56As for the other people which also come of Adam, thou hast said that they are nothing, but be like vnto spittle, and hast likened the abundance of them vnto a drop that falleth from a vessell. 57And now, O Lord, behold, these heathen, which haue euer been reputed as nothing,

    God Openly says over and over and over and over how no other nation mean ANYTHING TO HIM BUT the chosen childen the israelites!! yall looooove got to John 3:1616 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    BUT….wait for it…
    Isaiah45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

    The world doe not mean the whole world but only Israel!
    BOOM!!!
    we are not a CULT we are a NATION Gods CHOSEN NATION the only that God cares about!!

    Yes Edomite WAS our brother but broke that brotherly covenant put israel into slavery and all those other nation who consuled against israel! but even from the BEGINNING in adam and eve 2 esdras all the other nation ment nothing

  4. blankTony Miano says

    December 26, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    I allowed this comment to post so that others can see some of the unbiblical thinking of those who are enslaved to this cult.

  5. blankJellison says

    April 26, 2018 at 6:03 am

    “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
    ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:28-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    This one passage completely dismantles the Black Israelite religion. In Jesus we are all one, and we are made heirs because of the sacrifice He made for us on the cross.

    “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
    ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    We are free from the law. The Law was given to show us how sinful we are by nature.

    “Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭7:1-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    Don’t be deceived by this false teaching because of some desperate search for identity. Cling to Christ and be equal heirs to the kingdom with all of the saints.

    “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:14-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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